We're joined by David D'Silva, Principal Product Manager at Nava, for a conversation about legacy lockpicks: the reusable tools, playbooks, and patterns that help government teams move out of legacy systems faster and with less risk. We talk about why trust is the real currency of modernization work, why so many efforts stall at the data layer, and how to choose between patterns like strangler fig and lift and shift. We also dig into where AI is genuinely useful in modernization today and where it's mostly hype.

- David’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daviddsilva/
- Prior episode on Strata: https://civictech.chat/episodes/nava-strata-open-source-government-technology
- Strata page: https://www.navapbc.com/strata
- Legacy modernization page: https://www.navapbc.com/legacy-modernization
- Our prior episode covering the strangler fig pattern: https://civictech.chat/episodes/the-specops-method