We’re joined by Senongo Akpem (https://www.linkedin.com/in/senongoakpem/) Vice President of Design and Research at Nava PBC (https://navapbc.com/). Together we talk about shifts in the direction of the design and research practice, innovative practices to build capacity and leadership within it, and its future as new tools like artificial intelligence emerge and become part of it. Resources and shoutouts: Cross-Cultural Design (Book by Senongo) | https://bookshop.org/p/books/cross-cultural-design-senongo-akpem/7700a228f8e33947 Plain Language with Indiana DWD | https://www.in.gov/mph/files/DataDayPresentation-Plain-Language_v3-Comp.pdf Music Credit: Tumbleweeds by Monkey Warhol